A brief (and unscientific) comparison of popular sport touring tires fitted to a Yamaha FJR1300.

I have tried four (actually now six) different sport touring type tyres on my Yamaha FJR1300. Metzeler Z8 which (somewhat oddly) came on the bike when new. Bridgestone BT023, the non GT variation of what is usually fitted to this bike new. Pirelli Angel GT which was suggested by others and Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT. (Later added BT-023 GT and Dunlop Roadsmart 2)

This is an account of my experiences not a controlled test just some real world feedback for people to consider since what I read on the net regarding these tyres is always just peoples initial feeling when fitting them, usually after that days ride, and some wildly optimistic estimate of mileage they expect to achieve not close to the real world results.

I am not hyper sensitive about tyre road feel. I was initially when first on road motorcycles but after riding moto-x/off-road for a couple of years I got used to a bike moving about at times. Returning to pure road bikes any road tyre seemed to have enormous grip but I have come to experience better and worse road tyres over the years and all four of these tyres are good so the difference is between each of them not to other tyres. I will just give simple general notes about things like wet grip and lifespan and of course cornering.

Dry weather feel

grip

The BT023 was for the most part perfectly acceptable to me. However if comparing to the other three tyres their feel is less inspiring than the others in cornering and they let the bike move about a bit on turn in which I was fine with but some people might not like. They do not give the same levels of confidence that the Angel and Pilot Four do but they are perfectly fine tyres for every day road pace.

The Metzeler Z8 was a little better feeling on corner entry and felt more confident mid corner on the FJR than the BT023. Still a tyre that like the BT023 lets the big heavy FJR push the front around but on their sides feels little more planted than the 23’s.

The Angel GT offers a high level of grip feel on the FJR. It rarely lets the bike push or move about. Corner entry with these tyres is sure footed feel and inspires a lot of confidence. Similar mid corner grip is notably better feeling than the previous two. Ease of turn in and change of direction is best on these.

The Pilot Road 4 also offers great corner grip. Entry feel is solid no movement which continues mid corner. Confidence is high like the Angel GTs. The grip remains high on cold roads or having to suddenly change line or needing to brake mid corner. Nearly always offering a planted feel is how I would describe them. However is the Pilot Road 4 is a slow turn in tyre on the FJR, ie it makes the steering feel slower than the other tyres. (once worn in – brand new they all feel super quick turn in)

Another item to note is the FJR exhibits a cornering trait where it understeers then suddenly changes at half lean angle to oversteer. This has been noted by AMCN in their tests and is not my imagination. (its the high COG) With the Angel GT fitted the bike lessened it’s behavior of this and steering became much more neutral. Pirelli claim the Angel has a slightly different curvature for better wear (that is left to right not how round the tyre is) and this may be at play here.

Other tyres I have tried since posting this are the BT023GT and Roadsmart 2. The GT version of the Bridgestones feels the same as regular version. The only difference I could tell (after two pairs of each) is the GT gives better mileage which I will cover below) The Roadsmart 2 feels very much like the Angel GT but perhaps slightly less feel of grip but not by much. At present they are my favourite tyre on the bike but I am still evaluating them.

Wet weather feel.

wet

Now to wet weather grip. Something I used to not bother much about when only doing day rides in Australia. If it was raining I stayed home. If caught in a storm I would wait it out in a café. Now that I tour for extended time riding in rain and on wet roads all day is always a feature on tour and the way tyres feel on wet roads makes a big difference to my touring enjoyment.

The Z8 is a tyre I never liked in the wet. Always feeling like it was moving about and squirming. I used to tippy toe along when encountering wet conditions with these fitted. The BT023 is better but below the top two by quite a margin.

A big step up is the Angel GT tyres which feel very good in the wet. You can ride and not have the bike constantly moving about and feeling loose as with the other two tyres and only on the coldest wet roads might I notice the grip not always being there.

The Pilot Road 4 in the wet are a revelation. I forgot I was riding on wet roads after a while – the grip is that good. I would never had imagined this level of grip could be obtained on road tyres. Not saying you can lean over like in the dry but you can ride a modest pace and not feel the bike move about at all such is the grip level provided.

The BT023GT version is exactly same as the regular version in wet. The Dunlop Roadsmart 2 I am yet to ride in wet weather, but this being Japan that won’t be far off and will update then.

Mileage.

miles

Ok don’t read this chart as a score out of 10 like the previous – this time the numbers are distance in  thousands of km. I ride just for fun not commuting. Besides the odd bit of highway I ride only country roads with curves.

The Angle GT’s were worn out by 6,000km. Front tyre sides were completely bald and tyre had that pronounced egg shape making steering very slow and really high effort. Rear tyre was wearing consistently but at the wear tabs already. Terrific tyre in the way they feel but they wear out far too quick. I was surprised because on the net I read people saying they were getting 15,000km but this surely must be bullshit.

I changed the Z8’s out at 7,000km at which point the front tyre was very badly scalloped on the sides making the steering wobble under braking and the pronounced egg shape made turn in effort high. The middles still had some rubber remaining and if I was commuting the lifespan might be totally different but for sporty riding they did not last long enough and the hash wear on the front sides to me meant the tyre was not suitable for the heavy FJR.

With the Pilot Road four I had problems with uneven wearing on the front tyre. By just 1500km I had a mild shake in the front when the throttle was closed and this extended itself to a shake or vibration with throttle open or closed shortly after. Holding the bars I could negate the effect. The wheel was balanced and had not lost it’s weights. I had it examined and the issue was identified as uneven wear on the tyre.

Now these tyres cost me a lot of money, they are twice the price of the Bridestones in Japan so I elected to continue with them. But at 5000km I put the bike into the shop for a service was told there was a premature wear failure issue with the front.  The tread depth by then looked well gone and maybe another 2000km at the very most and I have shown the estimated total mileage in the chart.

Is this an isolated incident or something else. I was warned to stop using Michelin by my regular tyre shop back in Australia as far back as about 2004/5 when the shop owner told me lots of guys were having premature uneven wear issues with the Pilot Road series. But this is a very popular tyre and one I rode on in New Zealand with no problems for many thousands of km so I can only assume I was unlucky to experience this. In the overall wear comparison then 7000km (ish) is like the Angel’s low mileage hence why they grip so well.

The Bridgestone’s are the clear winner in mileage. The BT023 was the only tyre to wear consistently across the tyre. No scalloping and less of that egg shape which meant turn in effort remained less difficult as the tyres wore and only at the end of their life did they develop that higher steering effort issue as the egg shape became more noticeable on the front. While they lose out in grip they are the only tyres with anything resembling reasonable mileage on the FJR.

The GT version in my experience gives better mileage than the non GT version. I have had two sets of each and the GT’s each time wore better.

The Dunlop Roadsmart 2 are still on the bike, I will update their performance in future.

So that is my real world results which are very different to some of the talk on the net but the FJR is indeed very hard on tyres. I read claims of people getting huge mileage out of the PR4 and Angel GT tyres and even allowing for commuting or less grit in their tarmac I would have to say I think they are lying trying to boast or some nonsense. Perhaps another 25% more could be achieved but not triple as some have claimed.

2 Comments

  1. Thank You for this comparison. I am looking for new tyres on My 2014 BMW R1200RT. I have tried Meltzer z8 (I agree with you) I have tried Michelin pilot3 (good tyre but scalloped too fast)and my last were Pirelli Super Corsa's. The Perelli's were great tires if you were constantly flogging the bike. I managed to get 6k from them. I am glad I tried a hypersport tyre (first time) but they actually provide too much grip. It was very difficult to balance at slow speed or make a quick u-turn because front tyre was so hard to turn. I am going to try new Metzler 01 and see what happens.

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